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Stankleberry

Bill Clinton is a Democrat, so it's cool. Don't even worry about it, dude.

JF

The brass neck involved in that claim is quite astonishing.

Not really, with an MSM so dominated by the Left that it will spin any lie as truth to help their own. Clinton doesn't need any special courage to do this, because he knows that the MSM will provide more than enough cover.

Anthony (Los Angeles)

This kind of hypocritical historical revisionism is typical of the Clintons. (cf., Bill's attempts to cover his rear over his feckless policy toward bin Laden.)

Anna

This is typical and not at all surprising. Clinton is rapidly becoming the "Second Worst ex-President" after Carter. Both of them shamelessly bash the current administration here and abroad.

With another year to go before the elections the public will have ample opportunity to be reminded of how tiresome and grasping the Clintons are. Hillary presents herself as though she has already won, and it isn't appealing.

Maduka

Gentlemen,

The deeper issue is this:

'What is the conservative response to the problems of Energy Supply, the Environment and Global Warming'.

Until there is a coherent and WELL EXPLAINED conservative response to these problems, the Democrats are going to beat the Conservatives hands down. (How do you respond to Al Gore and his films?).

The next great war is going to be fought over energy supplies. India and China are expanding rapidly and devouring natural resources at an alarming rate. (Australia's recent boom is due to demand from China). $150 a barrel oil is looking like a real possiblity.

The truth is that the America(given our technological prowess), is too damn energy inefficient.

I spent time in the Oil and Gas industry (Niger Delta), and I know that Oil supplies are running out fast (not so much Natural Gas).

The Energy Supply / Enviromental issue is not an Ideological issue, it will not be solved by merely drilling ANWR. We need alternative sources of energy, we need more energy efficient devices and we need a Manhattan Project type effort to solve these problems.

If Brazil could achieve a degree of energy self-sufficiency, so can we.

Conservatives in Britain instinctively grasp the importance of dealing with Energy efficiency/the Environment better than conservatives in America. Probably this is because (unlike most nations), America does not have a history of scarcity, overcrowding and famine.

There is another issue that Conservatives need to urgently work on - healthcare. I am not advocating an NHS in America or importing the French Healthcare System.

American healthcare needs PRAGMATIC (NON-IDEOLOGICAL) solutions. A cost benefit analysis of potential solutions has to be carefully considered. For too long, Detroit has been competing with Toyota with one hand tied behind its back (due to healthcare costs). This is not healthy for US Manufacturing (I am speaking as an Engineer and a Business Consultant).

atheling

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!

They said we'd run out of oil in the 70's.

Byrdman

Excuse me but Detroit automakers are not in the position they are in because of health care costs (though I agree something needs to be done and tax breaks are a good conservative idea) rather, it's because of the awful contracts they've had with the UAW.

Byrdman

Excuse me but Detroit automakers are not in the position they are in because of health care costs (though I agree something needs to be done and tax breaks are a good conservative idea) rather, it's because of the awful contracts they've had with the UAW.

Maduka

Atheling,

The reality is that the supply of fossil fuels (especially petroleum) is finite and our dependence on foreign energy sources is risky.

We are going to run out of oil one day.

(A conservative principle is to plan for the rainy day).

We have been warned twice - We were warned in the 1970's and we are being warned now.

Are we going to wait until it is too late?

Maduka

Byrdman,

We can argue about the genesis of the problem (healthcare and Detroit, 50 year old agreements), but the problem exists and persists.

Businessmen, are not ideologues and many of the Detroit types are now calling for some sort of Universal Health Coverage.

These guys are not far left loonies, they are hard nosed capitalists.

Please what alternatives should be offered?

Denise

While I agree that we should do whatever we can to end our dependence on foreign energy (for the sake of our security), I still say that the warming of our planet is nothing new, has happened many times before in our ancient history, long before industrialization and cars. We have also had many cooling spells and will again. This whole idea that we are the cause of a global catastrophie waiting to happen and we are all going to die if we don't wring our hands and wail about doing something about it right now is ridiculous, getting old and getting on my last nerve. Volcanoes cause more pollution to our environment than we do. And the holes in the ozone close back up. It's our planet's natural way of getting rid of pollutants on it's on.

Maduka

Denise,

On the issue of Global Warming, liberals can be accused of scare mongering, while conservatives are yet to explain how we are to adapt to a rapidly changing world.

atheling

Maduka:

Can you please explain why Europe is not going to become an Islamic contintent?

You said you've been there, and state that it won't happen. Is that "reasoning" based on your personal experience or is it just a way of hiding your head in the sand? Are you just navel gazing on the issue?

Why are you so certain that it won't happen, when foremost Middle Eastern scholar Bernard Lewis predicted it over a decade ago? Have you examined the fertility rates of the indigenous Europeans with those of Muslim immigrants there?

Can you do the math?

Maduka

Atheling,

I have interacted extensively with young europeans (during my postgraduate studies). There is an interest in Islam, but secularism is very strong in Europe.

The issue of muslim birth rates is overblown, Muslims might have high birthrates in France, but we tend to forget that at least a quarter of french muslim women are married to non-muslims.

The greatest influx of recent immigrants to Britain (and most of Europe) are from Eastern Europe. For example, the baby boom in Scotland was triggered primarily by Eastern Europeans.

Granted, Europe has not been as successful as America in assimilating Muslims, but assimilation is taking place. I have met more than my fair share of secular muslims.

We tend to neglect the African population of Europe, it is growing rapidly and also tends to be very Christian. (Britain has roughly the same number of Afro-Carribeans as it has Muslims).

Maduka

Atheling,

Just to add (I completed my postgraduate studies last year), I was suprised at the number of Chinese graduate students and also the number of them who are Christians. (These are people coming from the Peoples Republic of China).

I don't know what their demographic impact on Europe will be.

billm99uk

The greatest influx of recent immigrants to Britain (and most of Europe) are from Eastern Europe. For example, the baby boom in Scotland was triggered primarily by Eastern Europeans.

Yeah, that's certainly true now. And the Poles have starting appearing in Britain in areas the Pakistani immigrants (who are mostly concentrated in London and the other major English cities) never reached. I live in Wales and these days you're just as likely to hear Polish being spoken in shops as Welsh. It's very strange, almost like being in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" - you go to sleep one night and when you wake up all the shop asistants in your local local grocery store have been replaced by Poles. That said, they're perfectly nice people, if a little confused at the moment("You English have strange sense of humour!").

atheling

Maduka:

Overblown? Says who?

It's an undisputed fact that among the indigenous Europeans they are at negative growth (Italy, Spain, Russia...) while the Muslims population is burgeoning. Rotterdam's under 25 population is 65% Muslim.

Do you know who Bernard Lewis is?

Maduka

This is what a pundit has to say:

Europe, on the other hand, is admittedly a trickier case. Native fertility is indeed low, while Muslim growth rates and levels of extremism have remained high. Over the next 50 years, Europe projects to lose about 100 million people, while European Muslims will double their numbers to about 20% of the total European population. If Turkey joins the EU, Muslim numbers will rise even further.

But will this bring Sharia law, as Steyn fears? I don't think so. Even under the most high-growth projection (which is by no means certain), Muslims will remain a minority on the Continent. Their radicals may want Sharia law, but they won't get it at the ballot box.

The challenge for Europe is assimilation. The same Pakistanis that want to be suicide bombers in Europe want to be Dentists and Lawyers in America - why? What about other minorities like Hindus, Sikhs,Chinese and Africans?

davod

A minority maybe. But a vocal minority located in major cities. A minority which will include the majority of younger people. Even now, when Islam is a more minor element of the populations, the "Youths" are acting up. A number of European governments are running scared of the Mulsims now and are bending over backwards to accomodate their every need.

Mass production of alternate fules is a long way off (Ethanol is a disaster, the problems of which are just beginiing to manifest themselves). Drilling at ANWR, off the coast, in the Gulf, and developing our coal liquifaction resources will make us self sustaining until we develop a viable alternate to fossils.

davod

A minority maybe. But a vocal minority located in major cities. A minority which will include the majority of younger people. Even now, when Islam is a more minor element of the populations, the "Youths" are acting up. A number of European governments are running scared of the Mulsims now and are bending over backwards to accomodate their every need.

Mass production of alternate fules is a long way off (Ethanol is a disaster, the problems of which are just beginiing to manifest themselves). Drilling at ANWR, off the coast, in the Gulf, and developing our coal liquifaction resources will make us self sustaining until we develop a viable alternate to fossils.

Seán

Why are you crackers so frightened by the left? You lot are incontinent with fear. Why? Surely the rapacious greed of the vulgar capitalists is more worrying than a bunch of lentil eaters with pamphlets encouraging vegetarianism. Half of you clowns would vote Stalin in as a firm hand on the tiller. He'd certainly deal with the immigrants in a way you'd approve of.

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