Is praying for rain such a "dotty" thing to do?
Asking God for good weather has been a characteristic of mainstream Christian traditions. It is the subject of some beautiful petitions in the Book of Common Prayer:
"¶ For Rain.
O GOD, heavenly Father, who by thy Son Jesus Christ hast promised to all those who seek thy kingdom, and the righteousness thereof, all things necessary to their bodily sustenance; Send us, we beseech thee, in this our necessity, such moderate rain and showers, that we may receive the fruits of the earth to our comfort, and to thy honour; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.
¶ A General Collect for Fair Weather.O ALMIGHTY Lord God, who for the sin of man didst once drown all the world, except eight persons, and afterward of thy great mercy didst promise never to destroy it so again; We humbly beseech thee, that although we for our iniquities have worthily deserved a plague of rain and waters, yet upon our true repentance thou wilt send us such weather, as that we may receive the fruits of the earth in due season; and learn both by thy punishment to amend our lives, and for thy clemency to give thee praise and glory; through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen."
But even if praying for rain appears odd to many people today, I have a more pertinent question: Should Justin Webb, the US Editor of the "impartial" BBC, be likening "praying for rain" to "a get-together of Stone Age men"?
Mr Webb was blogging after Georgia's Governor prayed for rain to end his state's drought. Many have ridiculed the Governor for his public prayer and it would have been quite appropriate for Mr Webb to have quoted those people's ridicule. That's what the Los Angeles Times did in its news report. But is it right for a public service broadcaster to treat the religious beliefs of many people with such derision?
Some of the comments below Mr Webb's post raised all of the right issues:
"I can guarantee that a BBC correspondent would never compare Muslim beliefs with those of "Stone Age men". I'm an atheist so it's all a crock as far as I'm concerned, but it's clear to me that the BBC treats religion in America differently to anywhere else in the world." - DB
"Would you call the Remembrance Sunday prayers at the Cenotaph a 'stone age' event?" - JR Lewis
"I don't see the BBC mocking Orthodox Jews davening at the Wailing Wall. I don't see them casting pilgrims in Mecca as self-deluded nut jobs. In fact, just today, I read a featured article about the heroism of Burmese monks. No mention of Stone Age meetings there. As a southern American, I am horrified, not by your thinly coated Anti-Americanism, but by your appalling dearth of decent manners." - KJ
"'Dotty'? So, when King George VI led the British people in a day of prayer on Sunday, 26th May 1940, His Majesty was 'dotty'?" - R G Montgomery
Mr Webb has form in disparaging religious Americans. This is what he told Radio 4 listeners in October 2004:
"That is why the President has held his own and might well win on November the 2nd. Because backing the President is about faith not politics. In politics when the facts change, you are free to change your view, change your strategy, if necessary. In matters of faith, when the facts change you are comforted by the knowledge that the rational world need not touch the engine that drives you forward."
BritainAndAmerica will be keeping a close eye on Webb-on-the-web from now on...



I suppose Mr. Webb would also deride the American Indians for praying for rain and doing their little "raindance" as well...
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Posted by: atheling | November 16, 2007 at 10:28 PM
The BBC is openly hostile towards Christianity, yet it bends over backwards to accomodate (even the more outrageous) manifestations of Islam.
I bet Webb would not dare to make fun of ANY Islamic prayer.
Posted by: Maduka | November 16, 2007 at 10:45 PM
Uh... I would advise Mr. Webb not to do that when the Seminole Tribe of Florida prays for rain. They've never signed a peace treaty ;).
Posted by: mamapajamas | November 16, 2007 at 11:04 PM
If memory serves me correct didn't Sir Winston Churchill call for a day of prayer during the second world war? The BBC certainly does have an anti-Christian agenda and was all too quick to mock the moral majority in the 1980s and the religious right today.
Posted by: Tony Makara | November 16, 2007 at 11:50 PM
Yes, Tony, Winston Churchill did call for a day of prayer; I think it was after the miracle of Dunkirk...
But then to people like Webb, Churchill would be considered "irrelevant".
Posted by: atheling | November 17, 2007 at 03:18 AM
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MADUKA.
Posted by: Steevo | November 17, 2007 at 05:23 AM
LOL, Steevo, I am all astonishment!
Posted by: atheling | November 17, 2007 at 08:13 AM
A prayer for rain is identical to a Stone Age rain-dance.
The only valid criticism here of the BBC is the charge that they wouldn't treat all faiths the same way.
It would be refreshing for a broadcaster to stop indulging in relativism, stop saying "all beliefs are equal" and only give respect to those faiths who can provide evidence to support their claims. Of course that still poses a problem for you lot....
Posted by: Jon Gale | November 17, 2007 at 02:25 PM
So glad I stopped by today. Steevo and Maduka in agreement. Crikey!!
Evidently Christian prayer caused no harm. It rained!!! We need much, much more, though.
There is nothing amusing or admirable in ridiculing those of faith. The Beeb delights in gloating over any difficulty the US and its inhabitatants suffer. Katrina was a perfect example. Actually, the Beeb only needs for a whiff, sneeze or hiccup in the US to whip up their anti-American campaign. HYS is a perfect example.
PBUBeeb. And I don't mean 'peace'.
Posted by: Anna | November 17, 2007 at 05:57 PM
Spot on Maduka. I have no gripe with Muslims and I especially prefer a pious Muslim to an atheist Brit but...
The dimwits at the BBC get on my wick when they always refer to Mohammed as the Prophet (with a capital 'P'), often appended with (Peace be upon him) but Jesus is NEVER Lord Jesus Christ or 'our Saviour'. Double standards is alive and well.
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