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Sarkis Zeronian

I've seen some slightly different analysis of the CPAC Straw Poll from National Review's "The Corner" (a blog contributed to by the writers of National Review, an American conservative magazine, for those of you unfamiliar with it):

"Rudy Giuliani may have been the real winner of this thing though — that he did as well as he did with a self-identified conservative crowd. His speech had both an overarching theme and great moments — that frankly surpassed anyone else at one moment in particular. No one but Giuliani can give the defense of the Patriot Act and NSA surveillance that he did — comparing it to prosecuting the mafia. But I also had the sense he didn't put a tremendous effort into his appearance — whereas Romney and Brownback had both people and signs, there were no Giuliani signs — and I even had the sense his speech was half-hearted, maybe because of fatigue. Imagine had he put in a full-fledged effort. That said, there would have been something off-putting about Rudy winning a conservative straw poll. But coming in second, without bussing anyone in — that's not nothing."

Daniel VA

Speaking of CPAC, has anybody seen this video clip of a typically thoughtful, balanced contribution regarding the 2008 presidential race by Ann Coulter?

With somebody as vile as Coulter as their pin-up, it's no wonder that the Republican right are so widely loathed.

Tim Montgomerie

I agree with you on Ann Coulter, Daniel.

I wrote about her CPAC performance from last year at the time.

Donal Blaney

We are all entitled to our own analysis. The joy of actually being there to hear the candidates was to take the temperature of the room yourself. Great fun.

As for Coulter, I am a fan of her writing but I fear, at times, she is unnecessarily mean and undoes a lot of the good work she otherwise does. That good work should not be overlooked in the rush for the high moral ground. That said, I made her my "Zero" yesterday on Up Front: http://donalblaney.blogspot.com/2007/03/todays-hero-and-zero.html.

Me

So you were there for Ann's speech? Did you laugh and clap like many of your co-delegates?

Donal Blaney

Yes I did, "Me". I thought her speech was very amusing and powerful - except for the "faggot" line she used about John Edwards.

Gilmore

Powerful? Her speech was powerful? You sure your were there?

Elsewhere I've seen it described as "a speech that was a series of joke after joke after joke after joke" and "a bunch of jokes on Gore, a bunch of jokes on Hillary, a bunch of jokes on Obama". It's stand-up, not a "powerful" speech.

Powerful speeches are ones like Oliver Cromwell's "in the name of God, go", Burke's "he is not a member of Bristol, but he is a member of Parliament", Patrick Henry's "give me liberty, or give me death", Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, FDR's "only thing we have to fear is fear itself", Churchill's "blood, toil, tears and sweat", JFK's inauguration speech, Reagan's "time to choose", Martin Luther King's "I have a dream", and Thatcher's "this Lady's not for turning".

Ann Coulter writes amusing books and does bad stand-up which frequently goes too far. She is nothing like a "powerful" speaker.

mamapajamas

Sarkis Z...""Rudy Giuliani may have been the real winner of this thing though — that he did as well as he did with a self-identified conservative crowd."

I agree with this assessment... so far. The issues more "right" conservatives identify with... abortion, gays, and guns... are things a president would have little influence upon.

The most that a president CAN do on any of these issues is appoint "constructionist" judges who would not be inclined to hunt through existing law to "find" rights that are not there.

On the issue of abortion, for instance, Giuliani is pro-choice, BUT thinks Roe vs. Wade is a bad piece of jurisprudence and thinks it should be overturned. Thus he would appoint the kind of judge who would be a "fellow traveler" with the pro-life group. Overturning Roe would return the abortion issue to the State level, which is where we Republicans REALLY want it. We don't all want it outlawed, but virtually all of us DO want more control over it, which can be accomplished at the State level where our voices are 50 times louder than they are in Washington.

People are starting to understand this from Giuliani's point of view, and the more people get an education on what a president can and can not do, the higher he'll go in the polls.

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