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Scotty

" But chasing such cheap votes in Britain has repurcussions in Washington. This behaviour can be expected of no-hoper Labour backbenchers. Not from an aspiring statesman."
Well when the Republicans in Washington decide the outcome of British GE's instead of the "cheap votes" of everyday Brits I will take this rubbish seriously. In fact, if that is the level of debate among Republicans or this site forget it!! I won't be back.

JF

Scotty,

You are welcome to the warm embrace of France. We have a genuine affection for the UK because of our shared values, not because of what we can get out of the UK (indeed, when the UK struggles to field 20,000 soldiers across Afghanistan and Iraq, it's hard to conclude that its contribution is essential beyond diplomatic symbolism).

Feel free to continue to bash the US; we'll continue to strengthen our new special relationships with Australia and Canada.

Michael McGowan

Scotty, that's the price you pay for being a weak insignificant former great power. I don't like it any more than you do but that's where we are. You can either complain about it or do something about it. What do you suggest?

Oliver McCarthy

Yup!

Cameron's recent pronouncements on marriage (for what they're worth, given that he also supports "gay marriage" and would rather have homosexuals voting Tory than Roman Catholics) suggest that he does indeed have some sort of strategy for eventually winning over all the people he's going to need to vote for him if he's going to be the next Prime Minister but one. In the end, having got hold of the upper classes' votes with the enviro-guff, and having got the respectable middle classes on board with the pro-marriage stuff, he's also going to have to clean up his act on the military front. And that will also be the time to re-make friends in Washington.

Of course, if Cameron goes into the next general election on the left of Gordon Brown then he will be dismissed as a total irrelevancy and he'll be gone from the Tory front benches in a matter of months. However wonderful he may seem at the moment, the great British public and the Tory Party are capable of turning very quickly.

malcolm

JF, good luck with Australia and Canada. The Australians have fielded fewer than 1,000 troops in Iraq and Canada have none.I hope our political leader reads your post and gets our troops (133 of whom have been killed) out of Iraq as soon as possible. I have no wish at all to see brave men die for 'diplomatic symbolism' particularly as the whole affair has been bungled from the start by the Pentagon, The State Dept and most seriously by that fool in the White House.

JF

Malcolm,

Agreed, the UK should get out of Iraq and Afghanistan--it clearly no longer has the will or capability to wage war. Why stop there? It should, in fact, go further, and disband its armed forces after it inevitably surrenders its nuclear arsenal. After all, the UK has no enemies and does not need NATO. The money can perhaps be best spent rebuilding your socialist economy and constructing the extra madrassas you'll need in the coming years.

I sympathize with the loss of your brave soldiers. I would posit, however, that the south has a different set of problems, and any blame for military performance there should be placed with the command of that theatre (i.e. the UK MoD).

After your army is gone, and your political capital with the US depleted, many will mourn the fall of Great Britain to the Islamofascist threat.

Phil

Wow. I thought this was site was about positive anglo-american relations?
While cheap shots at america may or may not have repercussions, they will certainly make Cameron look a damn fool if he ever gets to power and he looks at who his friends are.

JF

Phil,

What friends? He can't out-Labor the left (eco-fanaticism and expansion of the state), he can't be more Euro-skeptical than UKIP, he doesn't seem committed to cutting taxes or supporting his natural allies in the war on terror.. What do UK Conservatives stand for, really? Clearly, "conservative" means something radically different to the British than it does to we Americans. Who, exactly, is the constituency for the "New Conservatives"?

malcolm

JF, you're a moron.An embarrasment to your party and your country. I'm damned glad that most Americans I've met are more intelligent by far.

Nicholas Mayes

I like how it seems to be OK on this site for Americans to tell us how much they dislike Cameron, but not for Brits to mention how much they dislike Bush (who clearly has nothing but contempt for Britain).

JF

Malcolm, is that the best you can do? And you wonder why I'm skeptical as to the value of our alliance with the UK?

Nicholas, that's an interesting viewpoint. One is criticizing an as of yet untested leader who, without provocation, exclaims that he wishes to emulate the French strategy of countering the US. The other is a twice elected leader who presides over a booming economy despite fighting two wars. It would have been more instructive to compare attacks against Blair (which are nearly non-existent here in the US) to attacks against Bush. Believe me, the hatred only flows one way--our concerns about Cameron arise from his increasingly anti-American rhetoric.

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